do not get marariedi ONtario Canada

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on November 30, 2009 at 3:42pm

Ha ha i won sorta.

ok there wss a house that was bought not long ago he lied on the application and said he was not married. i was told at first he said he was but separated. under the law there this is a crime to say that. it means he got the loan fraudlenty as well.

it means unless he changes it before next week i get to file a notice on the house to make it half mine. this is why he is not coming to court! i knew he had told people we were not married. now i have proof. which means it helps in the di8vorce more than he will ever know! ha !

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 1, 2009 at 9:03am

finally get my court hearing.
i just want the divorce hope the house as leverage will be whati need.
I used to believe in marriage and all that but I am not sure what to think anymore.
I keep seeng how nice guys finsih last, but so do nice women.
Iti s not fair

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 1, 2009 at 11:08am

Finally good news.
On the phone for an hour and half with a lawyer and advocate. NO more fuzzy issues. I undertand why this is moving so slow on his part. He had they tell me rehired a lawyer he had before. THey say he is the most high powered lawyer there is. but I got him reprimanded before.

So they say if i am getting things done this far then I am beating a top lawyer. Not bad. Friends always said I should go to law school.

Ok. there has been the issue of the house. I understand that all now. He did not do two legal tihngs and that will come back to bit him.Also he was told he would have to pay me support for his stepdaughter and he trying to not fight that by not submitting financial info. But the lawyer and advocate told me how to move it past that. They also told me i would most likey get the house for one reason. To come back and settle the divorce. The fact I do not live there and they will make me go back and forth could help.

I am in awe today. They said everything i had done so far was good. But I now know why he kept trying to get the cops involed. they have a bad reputation in this city for harassing women. very old fashioned. they said they try to intimate women. that they did that not. so they said how to fight back. they said a lot of women there get abused because of it and it never gets reported because the women feel helpless to go the police. sad.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 1, 2009 at 4:41pm

I know i look like a nut but putting this all down actually helped me get my own answers.


He committed mortgage fraud. He could not get the loan unless I consented or we had a legaal sepration. Had he divorce me when i asked this would not be an issue.

I thought why did get so obessed with this one issue. Then yesterday I double checked one thing called a lawyer there and the bank again. My gut was right. He lied and i knew it. But i have a big choice now.

Go kick him out, split the house to live in, make him pay me rent or sell the house or force it into foreclosure. The bank may do it anyway because he lied.
The form he had to verify was new form the financial meltdown of last year. So the minute he did that all bets were off.

SO he could have should have divorce me filed for legal separation but he never did. He had the best lawyer he couild find so I am sure the lawyer told him what i know.

By the am I will make the big choce. I did find out later today that the judges there are very conservative and this could be bad for him.

Moral of this, is i trusted my gut. I had no idea why i went to Ont on a whim when I got sick. No idea why his kids told me what he bought. No idea why this was making me crazy. If your gut is saying something is not right trust it. Do what i did and put down in writing.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 2, 2009 at 7:21am

I began a process i knew nothing about. Today i feel better about whatever the outcome. This house is my leverage. I now know why i could not get htis guy into court. Fraud. He knew it would come up and out.

I do not expect to get much out of this. but at least I get to clear my name. What my extb accused me of he in fact did. I am more upset today that the cops there listened to him. I was beginning to feel like a nut.

So, I am taking all this to court and see if he shoes up for the conference and if not I hope the judge can make a fair temp decision. based on the new information. I am glad that got and advocated in Canada to finally help. Me this been a pain. There are just so many variables in thier system. They do not want divorce easy. So thngs there are not as clear cut as they can be here. Even post divorce changes can be made. had to learn new terms in the court. i was happier two months ago before al lthis began. ti

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 2, 2009 at 11:25am

You assume he even realized that he couldn't purchase the home on his own, since he is not divorced. I'm sure LOTS of people go out and buy homes between the separation date and the day the divorce is final. But you don't here of lots of them being sued by the exs. That's because what you feel you are entitled to (by law) is not moral. Yes, maybe he screwed you over, but you are only entitled to half of the marital assets on the date of separation, NOT the date of divorce.

If you pursue this you will bury yourself in legal bills. Is that fair to your child, the one who is disabled, and needs your love and attention??? Stop wasting your time focussing on getting revenge and focus on your child. If you are reasonable the court will award you something that is fair and will ensure your child is well taken care of. But if you pursue this the court will see that you are vengeful and aren't thinking about your child's best interests. That opens the doors for your ex to get custody.....






got this on a forum. form a guy. he did the same thing my ex did. i just got off the phne with the bank. they gave me 3 options now. so i will take that with me to court and let a judge decide now. he had to have come in to the bank with me if he did it legally or a legal document signed by me. so he lied. so they said one op is to have him investigated me take over payments or take an split on the house and me get a loan. so i have to make an offer to the judge that is good and fair an the bank get thier money. i say to rent it out for now. the bank said that was also an option.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 3, 2009 at 3:48pm

Luck was on my side today. Finally. The best lawyer there is going to advise me when I go to court. Not take on m y entire case but give 2 hours for the price of one. Then an angel who helped in the first places called me back. They did more homework for me today. Did not ask. I am doing ok. I am on the right path. I feel a huge sense of relief today.

I know much more about the court process today and I think it will all be better than I expected. The big picutre finally looks more clear and brighter.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 3, 2009 at 1:57pm

finally got the call i wanted today.

i was going to take a break from this. then a lawyer i wanted to speak to called.

THe extb has been trying to change the name on the title to the house. but then he changed it back. it is fraud on two levels. Was going to offer again a no money divorce. The lawyer advised me how to use the house to pay for the legal costs. He said I go back and the cops bug me again just say nothing. He made me laugh and said my ex can say he is the tooth fairy but he must prove it. The lawyer also said that the cops in this area are bad. Good to know it is just not me.

He then dropped this on me. he said tha tax penalty on the house that i was told of before is still there no matter what he does to the house now.Got a better idea of how the process will work even if he does not show up.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 5, 2009 at 1:56pm

Not divorce yet. But i did get to meet two little angels. One is a dear lady who is in the same boat as me. But she has more money that I do. She referred me to a great lawyer. Win or lose I am happy. I have given the toad one last 48 hr time to write up a no money agreement for divorce. He has until monday then we go to court soon. It gave me enough time to learn more what to do when I go to court, the process and what to expect.
I just want peace at this point.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 6, 2009 at 10:56am

Finally after all the research and calls I feel confdent to go to court.

I was nice for the last time. Offered one last chance to settle for no money.

Then I sue. I always knew I could not trust this guy much. But now he documented with a lawyer he was not married to the buy house and regisetered the title that way. I finally had to find the words from the gvot that said , the spousal statement was legally required.

I then found out he made a false police statement so that kills his credibility. He sent back a registered letter for court so I found last night I can use that as evidence.

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 8, 2009 at 10:38am

ok. the bank called me back.

they do to like to answer any legal questions there without a lawyer but today the said. because he lied and said he was not married the court adn the bank will allow me to take half the house!! the court called me and i was a biit confused on the court date i get to pick. yes i had to pick. but ihave to go on monday. so i get to fly out o a mon and return wed or tues.

again i offered a simple divore. again he refused. so i get an hour to get an temp order. i want 2 things support and then temp accerss to the house for court and i will not make him split equity. that sounds fair to me!

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Permalink Reply by WhisperingWinds on December 10, 2009 at 1:16pm

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/family/guides/scj/...

This is the guide I have go by for corut there. He did not consent so my trip next week is off. I am giong to go sit my but in a shelter there for women and try to get a judge to see me in between hearings. I can go get in his house, i got break in or sit and wait. I have asked for somene there to help me mediate. Wish me luck

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